1 year ago
Can anyone tell me what wage someone has to earn so they’re no longer “exploited”?

violentopinions:

ellentansey:

communismkills:

Can you give me a simple numerical per hour value?

Thank you.

They must earn the full fruits of their labour.

So, we’ll say someone works in a factory making shoes: every hour they make two pairs of shoes, each pair being worth £10, and the raw materials for the shoes having been worth £2. They have turned £2 into £10, an £8 mark up, twice (twice because they made two pairs) therefore their labour for that hour has been worth £16. That is the value of their labour. That, therefore, should be their wage.

But oh, what of the factory owner? How do they make money? Aren’t they being exploited now? How do we square this tricky dichotomy between he who owns the factory and he who works in the factory? Hm. Guess we better make it the same person, eh? 


I hope this has answered what I can only assume is a genuine and legitimate question, and absolutely not an attempt to bait an argument out of Marxists. 

Lol someone actually gave a serious response.

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1 year ago
whiporwill:

Why the wealthiest Americans are actually the “job-killers” and not “job-creators”: The top 1% of earners takes in more than twice the share of national income today than they did 30 years ago, and that’s a big reason why consumers are tapped out 

That the wealthy are “job creators,” and therefore have interests that must be defended by the public at large, is a talking-point that, however facile, is so popular it slips effortlessly from the lips of conservatives every day.
It can be deployed for any purpose – not only in calling for more tax breaks for the rich, but also when opposing public interest regulation, consumer litigation and worker protections. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minnesota, even used it to deflect attention from the “gay rehabilitation” services her clinic allegedly offers. When asked about it by ABC News, Bachmann merely acknowledged, “we do have a business that deals with job creation.” When pressed, she stuck with it: “As I said, again, we’re very proud of our business and we’re proud of all job creators in the United States.”
It’s also complete nonsense; the opposite of the truth. Sure, the wealthy create a few jobs – people who offer exclusive services or sell them high-end goods. But the overwhelming majority of jobs in this country are “created” by ordinary Americans when they spend their paychecks.
Consumer demand accounts for around 70 percent of our economic output. And with so much wealth having been redistributed upward through a 40-year class-war from above, American consumers are too tapped out to spend as they once did. This remains the core issue in this sluggish, largely jobless recovery. The wealthy, in their voracious appetite for a bigger piece of the national pie, are the real job-killers in this economic climate.
Don’t take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal reported this week that “the main reason U.S. companies are reluctant to step up hiring is scant demand, rather than uncertainty over government policies, according to a majority of economists” the paper surveyed. That jibes with what business owners themselves are saying. Last week, the National Federation of Independent Businesses released a survey of small businessmen and women that found widespread “pessimism about future business conditions and expected real sales gains.”

whiporwill:

Why the wealthiest Americans are actually the “job-killers” and not “job-creators”: The top 1% of earners takes in more than twice the share of national income today than they did 30 years ago, and that’s a big reason why consumers are tapped out 

That the wealthy are “job creators,” and therefore have interests that must be defended by the public at large, is a talking-point that, however facile, is so popular it slips effortlessly from the lips of conservatives every day.

It can be deployed for any purpose – not only in calling for more tax breaks for the rich, but also when opposing public interest regulation, consumer litigation and worker protections. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minnesota, even used it to deflect attention from the “gay rehabilitation” services her clinic allegedly offers. When asked about it by ABC News, Bachmann merely acknowledged, “we do have a business that deals with job creation.” When pressed, she stuck with it: “As I said, again, we’re very proud of our business and we’re proud of all job creators in the United States.”

It’s also complete nonsense; the opposite of the truth. Sure, the wealthy create a few jobs – people who offer exclusive services or sell them high-end goods. But the overwhelming majority of jobs in this country are “created” by ordinary Americans when they spend their paychecks.

Consumer demand accounts for around 70 percent of our economic output. And with so much wealth having been redistributed upward through a 40-year class-war from above, American consumers are too tapped out to spend as they once did. This remains the core issue in this sluggish, largely jobless recovery. The wealthy, in their voracious appetite for a bigger piece of the national pie, are the real job-killers in this economic climate.

Don’t take my word for it. The Wall Street Journal reported this week that “the main reason U.S. companies are reluctant to step up hiring is scant demand, rather than uncertainty over government policies, according to a majority of economists” the paper surveyed. That jibes with what business owners themselves are saying. Last week, the National Federation of Independent Businesses released a survey of small businessmen and women that found widespread “pessimism about future business conditions and expected real sales gains.”

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1 year ago 1 year ago 1 year ago
We have this fantasy that our interests and the interests of the super rich are the same. Like somehow the rich will eventually get so full that they’ll explode. And the candy will rain down on the rest of us. Like there’s some kind of pinata of benevolence. But here’s the thing about a pinata: it doesn’t open on it’s own. You have to beat it with a stick. Cite Arrow

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Keeps getting better every time I read it…

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I don’t really like Bill Maher but this made me lol

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